Merry Christmas!!

Well, it's my favourite time of the year, i love Christmas sooooo much. So, I just wanna wish everyone an awesome Christmas and a badass New Year!! I got some sweet gifts too, which is always a good thing.

Have a good un kids.


The only label!!

Well, I got my grubby mitts on the sample for my tee label today and all I can say is, AWESOME!! I was a little concerned that the coat of arms design would be too detailed, even for the high-def labels but I was gladly proven wrong. When you consider the label is 40mm x 40mm there is some serious amazing-ness going on right there.

Big thanks to Steve at Bellwoven for hooking me up with these and coming to the rescue when I thought I was screwed getting quantities and quality from the same company, so he gets a buddy link for being great.

So, I got some designs, got some tees, all I need is for a few production things to turn up (including the full delivery of labels) and we're off. Not in time for Christmas, which sucks, but save your pennies for the New Year...the year of the missile!!


Please Sir!!

Tomorrow should be a fun day, me and my best bud Benski are going back to visit our old College where we learned our craft, to give a bit of a design talk and a bit of tutoring thrown in for good measure. We both studied (and met) at Wigan College in 1996 and it was an awesome time in my life (I also met my girl there). We kinda like the idea that whilst we were there we nearly ended up being booted off the course for dicking around too much and told 'you'll never make it in the real world', but now we're all grown up we seem to be doing pretty well for ourselves really.

Wish me luck.


DubMissile label

This took me quite a while to put together, it started off as one of my earlier logo tee graphics, it will still be a tee design but not yet. I found some really cool heraldic designs that gave me what I was looking for and chopped out the bits I thought were cool, re-drew some bits, built one side that look nice and symmetrical, then flipped it all over and married the 2 sides together. I added the maltese cross in there too, which is a bit badass. Then I did some trickery and managed to create a positive version (for light backgrounds) and a negative version (for dark backgrounds). This can screw peoples heads up which is why sometimes you'll see designs that look right on a light tee but totally wrong and a dark tee, you can't use the same image and just re-colour it black or white. Anyway, that aside, it looks cool as shit so I'm using this for my tee labels (hopefully my guys can do the business on the detail side). It'll be around 40mm square and stitched onto the outside back neck so it can be seen at all times. The tee manufacturer label will be left in the inner neck so (a) you know it's a good tee and (b) any size info is left on just in case. The tees I'm working with at the moment are some of Fanshirt's cool lines (not the really cheap base tees), I want decent looking styles instead of generic market stall fitting tees, and Haynes tees which are known for their top quality and good range of styles.

Oh, don't worry, there will be colours in the ranges.

Tic toc....


New tee designs, at last!

Well, I've been holding off and holding off on showing any work in progress because, well, I'm still sorting stuff out as and when I get the cash together to do it and I'm constantly changing how I want to style my first bunch of tees. However, I've had a few nudges from guys asking what the crack is and am I actually gonna design some gear, so I thought it best to show what i'm working on at the moment then at least you all know I aint blowing smoke up your asses. Basically, I designed a bunch of tees months ago, but, in true designer fashion I got bored of what I did (even though i had some really positive feedback from some of the guys) and have gone down a different route stylewise. Some of my other designs, which I will post up here at some point, had tweaked graphics I did of cars but they were based on actual car images, which meant that in theory i was just altering someone elses car, which aint what I'm trying to achieve...does that make sense? I'm really into hand drawn, low-fi stuff at the moment and thought it'd be pretty cool to have a play with that here. See, thing is, loads of car tees out there seem to be either photocopied line art from Haynes manuals or stupid ass 'my car goes like your wife' slogan tees, which suck ass really. My angle is, when you buy a DubMissile tee, you know the art on there is original, done by hand (most will anyhow) and actually designed.

These two tees are the ones I've pretty much finished but am waiting on woven logo labels to sew in AND I've not fully decided on whether they'll be in black and white only, or, a range of colours. The 1976 'year of the rabbit' tee has a bit of a tattoo influence and the 1976 type has been based on a font I liked but needed a vegas touch, so i drew out the numbers and created my own fill with the diamonds, looks pretty cool. This may also change too as I'm pretty sure 1976 was the year it was penned as 'rabbit' but 1975 was the year it was first produced. Any VW buffs out there please email me as soon as and set me straight before I print em.

This one, the 'holy hoops' tee took a bit of time to do. I've elected a range of well known rims that are loved in the dub scene, drawn them in line art then created a nice montage shape on the tee. The good thing with this is I haven't named any of the rims so those in the know can play 'spot the hoop' and also argue over why one rim is on and another isn't. I think to put ALL the most awesome rims would be impossible so I ended it here...maybe a sequel? Again, still waiting on labels and not decided on colour schemes. All the hoops on this tee are being split and put onto individual pin badges so you'll be able to get your favourite rim on a badge, now that is some seriously cool shit right there.

I hope you dig where I'm at here, more to follow but for now I'm gonna concentrate on getting these printed and done for sale. The scribble finish is purposeful, gives them a bit of soul I think.

As for prices, i don't wanna price myself out but am thinking each tee will be £17.50 plus postage, but with that you can be guaranteed a cool tee style, good quality material, woven label AND a pack of 2 badges with your order. Once ready to go I'll post up all the info needed, including pricing, tee fit styles, colours and sizes.

If anyone wants to ask more questions or even ask about pre-orders just email me: al@dubmissile.com and I'll hit you back with some answers.

Oh, I almost forgot, there WILL be girls sizes with proper girls tees.

Most water cooled dubs will be catered for eventually, whether that be Lupos, Polos, Golfs or Passat estates so all will be good.

Launch imminent!


MOT f'kin blues

Are you sitting comfortably? Here's a little story of one car and its journey to getting the 'small' things sorted for the MOT test.

First up, I changed all the lighting to MOT friendly lighting (ie. front lhd angel lights changed to standard smoked vr6 ones, and the red rears changed to stock smoked items), then I set about fixing my wiper stalk, which stopped clicking into place, thus being a failure item too, so off to the local scrappy I went with a spring in my step and a glint in my eye. I managed to find a god awful mk3 in the yard (wish I took some pics) which had the entire engine bay painted by hand in silver paint, anyhow, the stalks seemed ok so I got the guys to take it off for me, in their own unique skilled way...yeah right. I then took my pants down and was bum raped by the owner for the stalk (£25...WTF?!). Off I went to my little personal garage, a back alley near my house, and plucked up the courage to disconnect the battery (always shit scared of zapping my ass into next week) and remove the airbag. Man, this is all going too easy. All back on and away we go, except the new stalk seems to only work in reverse and only when it feels like it, so off it all comes, bit of a clean, back on and off and on...FUUUUUCK!!! still no joy, so after a bit of agression I managed to fix my old one and all that goes back on instead. At least i know how to remove and refit all the steering wheel bits now.

Next up, abs sensor. The light was on all the time and we kinda thought we bust a sensor when fitting the coilies so I bought a pair and printed off a 'how to' guide off E38. It turned out that the sensor may not need replacing as the wiring had come off. A simple solder job perhaps? My buddy Gillymon let us into his dad's SICK double garage to do the work and my boy Chris came to save the day. Turns out that the simple solder job was gonna be a f'k bag of a nightmare. The sensor was fine, the wiring was easy to get at but the actual connector was fucked and we couldn't get at the wiring inside the actual connector unit. After a bit of swearing, arsing about and giving me abuse for having a reverse Midas touch (turning everything I touch into a piece of shit nightmare) the boys managed to bring out some ghetto engineering 101 and made it work. SWEET!!

Ding ding, round 3!! I failed the MOT on these things: ABS sensor warning light, drivers headlamp adjusters and rear brakes were a bit weak. So next on the list was to sort the brakes out. After visiting my local garage for a price on replacing the rear discs and pads, then walking away with another bum raping I decided to just buy all the discs and pads and sort it out between us. It worked out £50 less to buy all the pads and discs for the back AND the fronts rather than go to the garage just for the rears. Fuckers. Anyway, we decided to just change the rear pads for now so wheel off, bit off fiddling and the caliper came off...et voila!! BUT, according to the Bentley book, you need a special tool to push the piston back in, but not only push it in but twist and push. Who the fuck decided that was a good idea? So no joy there, old pads and shit back on. Time wasted. Heads scratched.

Ding ding, round 4!! This was it, this was the day that shit was gonna get sorted. Went to GSF to get the 'tool' of dreams then went home to my special garage again and away I went. Jacked up, wheel off, new tool used, bit of hard work and sore hands but new pads in. Awesome, cooking with gas. I rock. Today is a good day. Next wheel off, caliper off after quite a lot of grief, properly rusted up, then BAM, the problem, one seriously siezed piston. No rubber, piston all the way out. BASTARD!! So I used the tool but after nearly 2 hours of hardly any movement I gave up on it and decided to replace the caliper unit. Problem being that the nearest scrappies was over a mile away. Tools away and off I went. I visited my old friend, the piece of shit mk3 again and thought that even though he'd painted everything silver, including the calipers, it was a new arrival so they should still work. Off it came, again with some ghetto mechanic'ing skills that only these guys truly understand and away I went. Oh, of course another bum raping session happened, no wonder these guys drive around in nice cars. 2 hours down the line, from leaving the car to returning with another headlamp and caliper, I was ready to try again. New caliper came apart pretty easily but the old one, to keep in line with how my time with the car was going, decided to be a bitch. After much effort and at one point I will admit that as a man in touch with his emotions i did sit there, in the rain, staring at the caliper on the verge of having a little cry. Allen bolts were rounded, shit wouldn't budge but after some ghetto inspiration I managed it. Caliper on, new pads on and all working fine...except...have you ever tried bleeding your brakes by yourself? Me neither, so a local garage did me a massive solid and did them for free. FREE!! After the shit I've had and the sore ass I've got from the repeated bum rapings someone helped me out with some free-ness. So off to the MOT station i went.

And she passed!!

Long story i know but a nice one I think, shame I ballsed up on the pics front, I really need to have that in my mind at all times.

Big thanks to Gillymon and Chris for being good mates and helping me with the reverse Midas touch move I brought to the table and a big thanks to a certain Bolton salvage yard for repeatedly assaulting my pink cheeks.

Here's to another 12 months of legal motoring. Oh, and the hand shot? I'm a designer and I aint used to sitting at my desk with my hands looking like that. Not sure the bosses appreciate it, I had fun though.


Reporting for duty SA!!

Although I spent all last week drawing, scanning and messing around with my new designs I've had a weekend of late nights. Yep, Call of Duty4 came out on the 360 and it is f'kin awesome!! Bit of team deathmatch is alway good for the soul, blasting fools from the comfort of your armchair, pausing for brews, love it. Highly recommended, it shits all over Halo3 if you ask me and there aint half as many cock heads playing it.

You need it in your lives.


Take a gamble!

Get it!? Ok, proper shit link, but I liked it.

My pal Jezza from the VUU Cult has got himself a nice little line in tapped dice valve caps. These babies look the shit when on, adding a bit of Vegas flair to your hooplas.

I got some red ones for my bad boys, as show here:

But he has these other new sick colours to hand:

If you want some, they cost £5.00 a set picked up or £6.50 posted anywhere in the UK. Visit vuucult and pm Jezza (aka: hardwork) with your details.

You need these in your lives, but so do your local pikey scumbag kids so don't leave them on overnight or you might see em on the kids' bikes.


Something for the weekend

Check me out, all blog update crazy at the minute.

Ok, so the MOT is around the corner and having LHD angel eye headlamps means FAIL, so I planned on borrowing a standard set of lamps just for the test. But, and there's always a but, I'm kinda diggin smoked standard headlamps at the mo, so I bought a set of nice condition standards (with the built-in side lights) and decided I'd split and smoke em myself. Can't be that hard surely....ish.

Here they are at the moment, all nice and clean ready for me to break. I'll take step by step pics and post em up when they're all sorted. I did take shots when i prepped and tinted my rear lights (all red) and intended to post those up, but my phone broke and I lost all the pics.

Anyway, like I said, standard lamps, ready for action.

They only cost £30, so if I get £80 for the angels I'll have some extra fuel money.


First badge sale!!

This went through nearly 2 weeks ago actually but seeing as the Oxford Edition show is looming I thought I'd just mention it. A nice guy called Kevin got in touch asking for a large batch of mixed badges to liven up his bag range for the dub shows, so of course I olbiged, 200 of the little round discs of awesomeness. No pics as yet of them in place but if you're at the Oxford Edition show then keep your eyes peeled, in fact, if any of you decent dudes or dudettes out there wanna take a snap of these bags and mail me (al@dubmissile.com) I'll whack em up and of course you're name will be put up in lights for your efforts. Actually, send me a pic and I'll send you a pack of badges for your efforts (chosen pis only).

Cheers Kevin, good luck with the show.


Kevin at Europl8 bags (I think that's their name) has sent me a couple of pics of the bags. Gotta admit, pretty cool, so do everyone a favour and BUY ONE!!

The reward still stands though, any pics of peeps at OE sporting these fine bags (focusing on the badges of course) just send me an email with the pics and I'll hook you up with a badge pack.


1000 hits and rising!!

Cheers to everyone for giving the missile 1000+ hits. I must be doing something right so keep hitting and keep looking as there's a bunch of cool stuff in the pipeline. I'm thinking of putting up some work in progress for opinions too but not sure. Whaddya think guys? You wanna see purely finished stuff or the stuff that is being worked on?

Much love x


Yeehaw!! Comments for all!!

Thanks to Mike from Subtile blog (see the new link in my buddy's list) I've managed to toggle it for everyone to add a comment without having to sign up to an email account.

Ok, not huge news but come on, at least I'm bringning you the news as it happens. plus, it means I should get more feedback as time goes on.


Happy birthday to me!!!!

Well I'm getting older. Not necessarily wiser, or richer, but older. Today my friends I am 32 years young, nearly 40 as my supportive fiancee keeps reminding me. Getting older kinda sucks, but it'll be reet. I got some cool presents though which is really what birthdays are all about and my mum is having a bit of a family get together this weekend for me which should be awesome. Few brews, some karaoke and one of mums sick curries.

Thanks to everyone who wished me happy birthday, special thanks to everyone who got me stuff and extra special thanks to the future mrs Woods for the sweet gifts, especially the pin badge book (expect a new bunch of pin badges to come up soon and a clearer buying method) which is amazing.

Until next year.


Fletch, whuuuuuut!!

Well I kinda half hooked up with Fletch through work one day and we've become email buddies, modern day pen pals ever since. This guy flat out owns it!! UK hip hop can be pretty hit and miss at times and it aint often you get decent rhymes with solid backing tracks from the same artist and Fletch has his shit down. Full stop. I got my hands on a bunch more of his stuff today as an early birthday gift (thanks to the future mrs Woods for asking ever so nicely) so in return i'm gonna do some sweet graphics for him to use on tees, badges or whatever.

Big up Fletch for being just plain awesome, check out his steez HERE and HERE, I'll keep y'all posted on the designs I do.



Air soft? Air hard!!

Ha haaaaa, now this was some funny shit. Basically, a few of us used to play pro paintball together for a while and started our own team, K2. We did pretty well considering we were built from a bunch of mates, we got a heap of sponsorship, kicked some ass, won the European Indoor Championships 2 years running, I designed some awesome jerseys over the few years and we looked and played some badass pro ball. Our good pal and old main sponsor, Ledz (see planet eclipse link in buddys) organised a trip out for a day of airsoft in Peterbrough. Airsoft is basically dudes running around pretending to be real soldiers with what look like real guns, but firing small bb pellets...full auto though so pretty hectic.

We turned up and shit ourselves as there were guys fully kitted out, headsets, full camo, loads of guns, sidearms, grenades the lot, which was pretty intimidating if I'm honest, I mean we just rolled up with our paintball gear on looking like some extreme sports street tramp rejects. Apparently airsofters don't like ballers but i think that may be more the rec ballers rather than the tournament ballers like us, so we thought we were gonna get our asses owned. Well, nothing could be further from the truth, thing is, when playing pro ball all you wanna do is kill everyone and win the game so all we wanted to do was find everyone and take em down in a ghost recon style, the airsofters seemed to spend most of their time talking to eachother on their headsets, hiding, cuddling up together (you've heard the term 'cold war' right?) or getting shot, which was funny as hell. I was surprised how quickly we got into it and was shocked at how much we ballers owned the killing sprees, one of the last games there were 2 of us in one room stopping wave after wave of attacks. Dudes were crawling up the firescape but getting owned, trying to creep round the door and getting owned, hiding behind a tank....and getting owned, some dude even fired a bunch of grenades through a launcher at us (which didn't count as kills as they weren't proper grenades apparantly), the whole thing was immense.

We had some good games, loads of fun and pretty scary going thorugh an abandoned building not knowing whether people are in rooms or not, real good for the heart and fear-ometer. All I can say is do it, you'll have a blast and if you go with an open mind you'll have a bunch of fun. Oh, and if you wear a ski mask like Tom and grin through your teeth all day you can look like a derange murderer.


RIP Gillysteins monster!

Well it's been a sad few months. The car that gave me the vr6 bug has finally gone to the scrapyard in the sky. My boy Gilly's awesome vr vento was badass, it sounded like a beast and went like a train until the fateful day when it had a bit of a CQB with a mk3 20vt. Bang!! Front end destroyed. Game over. Go home. The end. But Gilly is a man of means, a horse of a man and he wouldn't be defeated. So, the chassis legs were straightened using only the finest ghetto engineering, a golf front end was sorted, new inpro angels and a carbon bonnet added to make her look like a car again. Then the interior was stripped out, amazing how much shit mk3s carry in weight, did you know they have small factory sandbags in places to weight em? Anyhow, the 'gento' was born, for a bit, until he nearly went deaf driving it (no sound deadening you see) so he got bored and the chop up began. Now not being a pikey or owt but i like a bargain, so I decided to have away with the tyres, fk coilovers and full stainless de-cat system for my golf, only to help a pal out of course (zorst build day coming soon), .

Now she's gone, but in her memory I've added a set of phone pics (as supplied by Chris) to show her final moments. You may notice some examples of Ben and my good self trying to be Chip Foose with some fancy body mods, the flames look particularly....ghetto, amazing what you can do with some 5 year old tins of primer and other random stuff you can apply with a brush. Gilly is particularly deadly with any kind of power tool, hence why no-one is anywhere near him in the pics.

Check the 'PICS', so long baby, you were awesome. Rest in many rough cut pieces.


Hi honey, I'm home!!

Sorry guys, been hella busy the past couple of weeks so not had chance to post any updates. Got a couple of vr updates to follow as I've done a few more bits to her (self tinted all red rears and a set or kamei fog ducts, painted by my own fair hands), plus the final days of my my boy Gilly's vr vento, now in the hands of mr. scrapman, sad days, although I managed to salvage bits for mine so she still lives on in spirit. Oh, we also went for a blast at airsoft last week which was some funny shit, more on that later.

Stay tuned kids.


Edition38 cherry poppin'

Well it was my first Edition38 event this year and all I can say is what an awesome weekend I had. Hangin' out with my mates, camping, loads of barbeque action, beers, laughs and insane cars. We camped with our manc:union bretheren as our first club get together away from our meets and it was great being around a good bunch of guys and gals who didn't seemed to mind our warped sense of humour too much. Big props to the union and here's to more of the same for next season. Those guys at E38 really know how to organise a great event. Here's a few pics i took of some sweet rides and a few of us being leathered walking around in the dark. 'pics'

Here are some pics taken by my pal and fellow manc:union rep 'Walker'. Bit better than my camera phone efforts.


VR gets some love for E38!

Before and after...

Well it took some doing, in fact it took about 10 months, things take a bit longer when you're skint don't they.

So the cack OZs have finally gone to the basement to be replaced by the 17" BBS Monzas (mk5 gti) and the worn koni suspension kit made way for some sweet FK Konigsport coilovers. Nice.

We basically loaded my boot up with all the gear: shocks, adaptors (the BBS are 5x112 pcd as opposed to my 5x100 hubs), brakes and rims. As with anything to do with cars, nothing really went to plan. Removing shocks was surprisingly straightforward, but when we came to fit the brakes....it turned out the so-called 288mm discs I bought were actually 280mm, which aint any use really, so that had to be scrapped. Secondly, fitting adaptors was a cinch but when we came to fit the rims it turned out that the wheel bolts I'd been driving around on where wrong. The bolts were slightly too long and the seat was too deep. None of this mattered on the old rims as they seemed to hold ok but with decent genuine oem rims the bolts need to be right. Let the games begin. First stop, GSF. Really helpful, showed us a standard bolt which seemed to fit the bill but they only had 10. Crap. Next stop, VW main stealers...parts department was shut. Next stop, bit of a ghetto stop at a local National tyres Garage who happened to have a bunch lying around which I managed to buy up, so we decided to leg it to GSF for the rest...who had just shut. So we had 8 bolts, new coilovers the geometry all set up, all the tools to do the job but not enough bolts. So up steps my pal Gilly who we remembered had all the bolts we needed seeing as his vento was in pieces in his garage covered in paint that we decided to add, Chip Foose style. problem with this was that he was in London so fate had dealt us a shitty card and we had to wait until the next day. Which was a breeze. All the hard stuff like freeing up track rods, adjusting camber...etc had already been so all we neded to do was see just how low we could make the bitch sit. We managed to get her nicely raked out, arse up, nose down looking pretty cool and my personal mechanic and close personal friend Chris even threw in a wash for me. What a nice guy.

Anyway, long and short is the ride looks sweet now ready for Edition38, although I'm gonna see if I can sort out a few more things before the end of the week like a new front splitter, rear lights and maybe some textured sill trims. Oh, and despite our efforts, the arches and tyres are getting awesomely fouled up thanks to some rrrrrrrrub.

None of this would have been possible if it wasn't for Chris. Everybody needs a Chris and if you click 'everybody loves Chris' you can view a pic strip (not of him stripping) to see just how much of the work he did....pretty much all of it to be fair. Big props to ma boy for this one...more to come when I get the arches rolled.


VUU Cult graphic finalised

It's been a hectic week at the missile base but I managed to get one of the many jobs on the list finished. After a slightly too dark and religious looking first attempt I managed to hit the nail on head with the second design. A bit more badass and hot-rod looking which is where these guys are coming from. Expect to see the Vuu Cult crew looking totally awesome real soon.

Enjoy guys.


Dubmissile collaborates with VUU Cult

The next club targetted by the missile for a design project is the cool collective known as VUU Cult. These guys, based in the North (Leeds/Huddersfield way) are a great bunch with a certain outlook on the dub scene. Their club forum, vuucult run by Jez and Sarah is a dark but relaxed place to be with a lean towards the hot rod inspired way of dubbing.

Pay em a visit, have a good time.

Watch this space for updates of their new club graphics.


Dubmissile badge packs

As a promo for the missile I handed out little cards with a free badge on at this years GTI International, which semed to go down a storm.

I've now compiled all the badge designs to date and am selling these as 'pick your own' packs.

Simply pick which 5 you like best then email me with how you wanna pay and where you want them posting to (orders@dubmissile.com) and I'll send you the pack (as pictured) for £3.00 (posted).If you want more than 5 then each additional badge will be an extra 50p. I accept paypal or can arrange to hook up with you at any of the big shows for a cash on delivery job. If you choose to pay by paypal then please add an extra 25p for charges.


The VR plans are looking up.

Well she's been sitting high on her OZ Volcano stand-ins for a while now, just waiting for me to get enough cash to finish off the rim plans...and now, we're nearly there.

17" Monzas repainted in graphite, 20mm ProjektZwo 5x100-5x112 adaptors and a set of heavily treaded 205/40/17 Yoko rubber all waiting to be hooked up with a new set of VW valves this week (£11 a piece...ouch!!).

Also got an almost new set of fully adjustable FK Konigsport coilovers wiating in the wings to complete the rims and stance, bit of nose down badass action. Should be the only mk3 on mk5 gti rims that I know of, all going well she should look sweet.

Also gonna replace the front splitter (coz I kinda bust it up) and sill strips, all to be colour coded to match the rest of the trim.

Aiming to be sweet by E38, watch this space.


Made the blog public knowledge now.

Well, I was gonna wait until I had everything up but to be honest, people wanna see progression so I made the blog public knowledge today on manc:union.com and edition38.com. Hopefully it'll attract some visitors and I can provide what we've needed for a while, some decent clobber.

Keep visiting.


Dubmissile blog ready to rock!!

Ok guys, the dubmissile web site is still in progress but should be sorted within a couple weeks, just got a few host and programming issues to iron out until the big launch.

Once up, you'll be able to check out and buy all the fancy ass cool threads you could ever dream of to keep you looking uber fresh along side your water cooled ride.

In the meantime, hold tight and I'll try and keep you entertained with this blog.

Dubmissile & manc:union.

New Manchester dub crew, manc:union, sign up dubmissile to produce their club wear. Tired of the usual bland logo'd tees, the union wanted something with bit more punch so the missile stepped up and created a new logo tee and hoody with cooler garments. Check the manc:union forum and take a look for yourself in general chat or if you just wanna see what we're all about. Keep an eye out for manc:union this year at the dub shows (if they don't all get rained off), there should be a good turnout at the edition38 monster show 31/08/07 - 02/09/07.